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- Homebuilder Sector: Waiting For KBH, LEN Results [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Housing's Macro Effect: Eye On New York [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Homebuilders Securing Credit Lines If They Still Can [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Homebuilder Stocks That May Offer Value Here [view article]
- Another Oversold Watch: Is This One Different? [view article]
- Is Robert Toll's Honesty Keeping Shares Above Water? [view article]
- Currency Market Predicts Bailout Is the End of the Credit and Housing Crunch [view article]
- Fuld to Wall of Shame - Cramer's Mad Money (9/9/08) [view article]
- Vegas Home Sales Are Up 93.4% Y/Y [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Homebuilder Rally: Are Their Troubles Over? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
- Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News [view article]
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- Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker]
- Housing's Macro Effect: Eye On New York [Housing Tracker]
- Homebuilder Sector: Waiting For KBH, LEN Results [Housing Tracker]
- Homebuilders Securing Credit Lines If They Still Can [Housing Tracker]
- Homebuilder Stocks That May Offer Value Here
- Public Homebuilder News [Housing Tracker]
- Another Oversold Watch: Is This One Different?
- Homebuilder Execs and Analysts Indicate Rally Is Over [Housing Tracker]
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- Homebuilder Rally: Are Their Troubles Over? [Housing Tracker]
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Homebuilder Sector: Waiting For KBH, LEN Results [Housing Tracker] [view article]
So TOL is in the land speculation business now.Reply
Logic
Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Hey! As a 30-something investor, I resent these implications! Short attention span, my ass! Wait... what was I talking about again?Anyway, you'd be surprised how many of us 30-somethings know our history. I've been bearish since 2001 (I actually missed the cyclical bull we completed last year because I stayed bearish the entire time). This market looks a lot like the market of the late 60's to me, and I don't expect an end to the bear for years.
Why all the bashing of 30-40-somethings, when it's the Baby Boomers who took the strongest economy in history and basically destroyed it over the course of about 20 years? They mortgaged our economic future to China, Japan, et al and buried us in debts we cannot repay (except possibly by massive inflation). As far as I'm concerned, the Boomers sold this country down the river, but my generation will be the one left holding the bag.
So which generation has the short attention span, exactly?
Generation X: The suckers who are still buying into their 401Ks and paying their FICA because they don't know their history?
Or the Baby Boomer ME generation who just had to have their entitlements and a bigger home and a plasma TV and timeshare in Venice -- and didn't care how they got them, as long as they got what they wanted?
And, for the record, Cramer is a complete idiot. Reply
Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
It's hard to blame the decisions on the current managements of our banks and governments. The actions being taken are those taught by our most prestigeous halls of education.Until that is corrected, our problems will continue. This will take at least a generation to adjust. We're just going to have to BEAR with it! Reply
Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Does anyone really believe that housing stocks will ever repeat their earnings of 2005. With lower and middle class real wages decreasing and credit standards tightening, it's would be optimistic to believe that the housing industry will have meaningful earnings before 2010-11. To buy such stocks now is a great leap of faith. ReplyWhy Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Its not the 30-40 something investors. Its the 30-40 something mutual fund managers that take advice from Cramer. Due diligence for them is watching "Mad Money".I kid you not. Reply
Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
This isn't anything like 1973. Believe me. For a comparison, you have to go back to 1930. Smoot Hawley, Sarbanes Oxley. And now we are about to elect a leftist who will make it worse. Yup, it's all there. ReplyWhy Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
I totally agree with SWRichmond assessment on the 30ish to 40ish group of investors. I was in college back in the early to mid 1970's and was interning at a brokerage company, Hoppin-Watson & Co., and I still remember well the 1972-1974 correction. We seem to be on our way there now as this is worse than 1987's correction and the dot-com bubble of 2000. Seek out the wisdom of men like Art Cashin who were around back then and now give very sage and insightful investing guidance. ReplyWhy Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
This is a perfect, perfect, perfect illustration of the 30- and 40-something crowd that still believes that this is just another dip that the Fed et al are going to maneuver us out of, and so this "low" is just another historic buying opportunity. Americans have been taught that they have a right to expect the stock market to always go up. The 30- and 40-somethings have grown up in an environment where stocks just go up. Put money in the stock market and by magic it gets bigger! What's not to like? This is the short-attention-span crowd that thinks it understands economics and boo-yahs at idiots like Cramer.And their is a paradigm that that will kill most of them. This crowd has never seen a genuine capitulation. We are so far still from a genuine capitulation event that when it comes this crowd will be vomiting on the streets. Literally.
And then they will be begging for the government to save them. Reply
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Why Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Thanks! ReplyWhy Are Homebuilders Up On Lousy Earnings? [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Great compilation ,Judy..thanks. ReplyHousing's Macro Effect: Eye On New York [Housing Tracker] [view article]
As a former NYC resident that's paid obscene amounts of money in rent over the years, I think it's about time for a change. Granted, no one wants to see anyone lose money, lose jobs, and lose business, but at the same time, prices in the general New York Metro area have been so out of touch for such a long time...it's about time the bubble burst. ReplyHousing's Macro Effect: Eye On New York [Housing Tracker] [view article]
Responsibility.... I sure hope you're joking.... jegan ;-) Replyty
Housing's Macro Effect: Eye On New York [Housing Tracker] [view article]
To encourage people to be responsible, we should have tax penalty and special points for future loans on load defaulters and tax incentive to people who keep their mortgages, to those who take on new mortgages, and to those who increase their mortgages, similar to tax on big cars and incentives for small/hybrid cars. Please spread this if you agree so that the politicians will do something. Replyty
Homebuilders Securing Credit Lines If They Still Can [Housing Tracker] [view article]
To encourage people to be responsible, we should have tax penalty and special points for future loans on load defaulters and tax incentive to people who keep their mortgages, to those who take on new mortgages, and to those who increase their mortgages, similar to tax on big cars and incentives for small/hybrid cars. Please spread this if you agree so that the politicians will do something. Replyty
Homebuilder Sector: Waiting For KBH, LEN Results [Housing Tracker] [view article]
To encourage people to be responsible, we should have tax penalty and special points for future loans on load defaulters and tax incentive to people who keep their mortgages, to those who take on new mortgages, and to those who increase their mortgages, similar to tax on big cars and incentives for small/hybrid cars. Please spread this if you agree so that the politicians will do something. Reply